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Host: Lucas Held, director of communications at The Wallace Foundation 

Guests: ​

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Caroline Shaw, executive director of the Opportunity Project in Tulsa 

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Stephanie Andrews, interim executive director of student and family support services for Tulsa Public Schools 

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Greg MacPherson, chief Big Thought Institute officer for Big Thought in Dallas 

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Juany Valdespino-Gaytan, executive director for social-emotional learning for the Dallas Independent School District

“We don’t just live in this little microcosm called a school district. Our students go home every day and live in the community. So, it only makes sense that we would be reaching out to our community-based organizations, our partners, our expanded-learning partners for us all to work together to serve our students and families.” – Stephanie Andrews ​

The Partnerships for Social Emotional Learning Initiative (PSELI) is a comprehensive, multiyear initiative exploring whether and how children can benefit from intentional partnerships between schools and out-of-school time programs focused on building social and emotional skills – and what it takes to do the work. A report by the RAND Corporation offers important insights from the first two years of the initiative at a time when interest in SEL is outstripping empirical guidance about how to implement these programs and practices.

​Researchers found that being committed to SEL and taking the time to meet were important starting points for partnerships between school districts and out-of-school time intermediaries.

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