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Host: Ed Pauly, Director of Research and Evaluation, The Wallace Foundation

Interviewees: Liz Kirby, Chief of Strategy and Planning for Chicago Public Schools; Steve Tozer, Director of the Center for Urban Education Leadership at the University of Illinois at Chicago

University preparation programs need to be selective about the candidates they admit and then equip aspiring leaders with the real-life skills they need to lead schools. They also need to partner with school districts to meet their hiring needs. Hear how one district-university collaboration set about meeting both of these goals—and is now reaping rewards in its principal pipelines.

"Instead of believing our clientele was graduate students who wanted a certificate for the principalship, we began to believe our clientele was public school students who needed a good principal in their schools." — Steve Tozer


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The Principal Pipeline Podcast features principals, district and state leaders, and university officials who have developed strong principal pipelines and are eager to share their lessons learned with the broader field. ​